Muskie for beginner
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i have heard of some people catching some decent size ones at the mouth of the nashwaak right from shore last week
hey fishing rod, Its just a question, You don't have to give away a secret spot or anything, I was just asking for ideas. If you don't like the question, don't answer it.
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Fishing Rod:
Looks like I was under the false impression this site was for sharing information and helping promote and foster the great, but dying, sport of fishing. Most of the next generation are too wrapped up in the electronic toys to go outside and do anything. Whether someone wants to post great fishing spots,lures, flies or techniques or not is up to the individual. It may noy be your preference but please do not bash others who see it differently.
Looks like I was under the false impression this site was for sharing information and helping promote and foster the great, but dying, sport of fishing. Most of the next generation are too wrapped up in the electronic toys to go outside and do anything. Whether someone wants to post great fishing spots,lures, flies or techniques or not is up to the individual. It may noy be your preference but please do not bash others who see it differently.
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I just posted a pic of my 1st muskie in the gallery. It took 2 yrs to catch it, but I only fished 8/10 hrs per day , 6 or 7 times a year. Caught it in F'ton. The majority of muskies are caught between the Princess Margaret bridge and the Bucket club (harts island campground I believe)Lots of info available at muskiesnb.ca
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I can't speak for another member, but I don't believe anyone got 'bashed' - simply a tongue in cheek reply to let the person know that asking for fishing spots or locations on open forums is generally frowned upon by most site users. These fishing forums are great, they're fun, you get to meet other like-minded people and learn things as well - but it gets tiresome when people come on and ask for a spot to fish for any species. It's easy to forget that you're not just talking to the one individual (or a few), but this info will be read by literally thousands and thousands of people over time. Specific location information is probably one of the only bad things that has come out of these websites - and I'm sure we've all seen the results of added angling pressure directly because of this information being shared on the web for anyone and everyone to see.
If you're really interested in targeting a species - do some reading, ask people general questions on specific characteristics to look for on the water, or talk to people one on one - send a member an email or private message rather than post location info on forums. The muskiesnb site had to shut down most of their forums to the public (you have to become a member now to read all but the general forums) because of the incredible increase in fishing pressure in Fredericton for this very reason.
A little common sense goes a long way.
Well, I guess its a good thing I'm not asking for a specific spot then, besides, It's up to you to give the information, so if a person doesn't want to give it up, then by all means don't give it up.
nothing personal meh i'm just saying to the membership to be careful what you post---now if you would have asked-- can anyone give me some tips on what to look for when i'm looking for(enter species here)--it will make this site much more fish friendly--cause believe it or not there are lots of knotheads who just have to kill everything they catch--probably not you but maybe some lurkers--BONASA U--thanks for the help--nice cradle--where did you get it?
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LeBaron catalogue.....ya' want one for Christmas?nothing personal meh i'm just saying to the membership to be careful what you post---now if you would have asked-- can anyone give me some tips on what to look for when i'm looking for(enter species here)--it will make this site much more fish friendly--cause believe it or not there are lots of knotheads who just have to kill everything they catch--probably not you but maybe some lurkers--BONASA U--thanks for the help--nice cradle--where did you get it?![]()
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I spent a lot of time scouring oromocto for a muskie last summer. I wouldn't recommend trying to find any there. But any place where Casey mentioned is good. From the bucket club all the way down to the PM bridge. Try on the points of some of the islands around there. I've been hooking them pretty shallow lately, not a one in the boat yet this season. Netting by yourself is not always fun.
sorry, that question was a little vague. I'm only looking for ideas, general areas, and places that everybody, other than myself, know about. I'm not looking for specific locations, thanks for mentioning the bucket club though, but areas.
Thanks to everyone.
Thanks to everyone.
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Most of the serious Musky guys belong to the Association.I was a member, and didn't find it worth it.Some of the Associations get too carried away.No matter what anyone says, you have to cull fish regardless of their population density, ask any Biologist on their views on this.Any predator of any kind benefits from culling.For the people who actually understand this, it's only common sense.Not trying to ruffle feathers, it's just the facts.
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Mudman- while i agree that controlled removal of fish can work wonders for the populations where the average fish is smaller and smaller, i really don't think there is currently a need to cull any muskie
As far as anybody that is studying muskies as part of the club (also some biologists outside the club) Muskies are not spawning below the dam. there have been enough reports of young muskies upriver that we know they are spawning with some success.
also, the size average of fish caught is getting bigger, showing that the population is fairly healthy, but considering all these fish were born above the dam....
As far as anybody that is studying muskies as part of the club (also some biologists outside the club) Muskies are not spawning below the dam. there have been enough reports of young muskies upriver that we know they are spawning with some success.
also, the size average of fish caught is getting bigger, showing that the population is fairly healthy, but considering all these fish were born above the dam....
Only populations of fish that are overly abundant and stunted due to excessive competition for food can benefit from culling. One good example that I can think of is Lake Digdeguash and it's population of white perch. The first time I fished there I was amazed at the clouds of white perch down there on the fish finder and how they were mostly very small. You could literally catch them all day long one after another. They have dropped the population of native salmonoids way down as well as smallmouth. I guarantee if everyone culled 1000+ white perch a year, the lake would be the best white perch spot around and a lot of fish would be 1pound plus.
Not only are there a lack of predators, but the water is stained so dark, the birds of prey have a hard time seeing these fish and they stay just deep enough to be out of sight. One eagle was watching us in hunger from across the lake and when we threw back a wounded perch, he swooped in right beside us, then came back a few mins later and was eyeing the few larger perch on the dock and wouldn't take any of the small wounded perch we were throwing back but the second someone threw a 15" perch in, he took it, went back to his tree and then the other large white perch was thrown in and he came back, one fish already in his talon and grabbed the other. Talk about a double header!!!
Not only are there a lack of predators, but the water is stained so dark, the birds of prey have a hard time seeing these fish and they stay just deep enough to be out of sight. One eagle was watching us in hunger from across the lake and when we threw back a wounded perch, he swooped in right beside us, then came back a few mins later and was eyeing the few larger perch on the dock and wouldn't take any of the small wounded perch we were throwing back but the second someone threw a 15" perch in, he took it, went back to his tree and then the other large white perch was thrown in and he came back, one fish already in his talon and grabbed the other. Talk about a double header!!!
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Interesting. What conditions do musky like to spawn? Obvioulsy they found places above the dam. I suspect it is merely a matter of time before they find places below the dam as well. I suspect in years to come they will be throughout the entire Grand Lake system.
I know people love fishing for muskie, but you have to wonder what changes they will make in the ecosystem. Whenever an invasive species enters a water there are changes. Has anyone noticed any significant changes above the Dam? Up near Woodstock or above?
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I've only read about muskie spawning in lakes and it's about the same as the rest of the pike family-shallow bays with early weeds and sand/gravel bottom. if there is a significant population of pike, muskies will often spawn deeper.. (pike spawn earlier than muskie, i'm assuming chain pickerel would too) muskies spawn when the water is in high fifties/low sixties.
i haven't really heard much about a negative impact above the dam except far upriver muskies have been blames for declines in trout populations. i think it's just as likely that overfishing or the introduction of SM bass is to blame. probably all three.
I personally don't think muskie will have too much of a negative effect below the dam. they might eat a lot of gasperau, bullheads, fallfish, perch and suckers, but i don't think it will hurt fisheries for them very much..
i haven't really heard much about a negative impact above the dam except far upriver muskies have been blames for declines in trout populations. i think it's just as likely that overfishing or the introduction of SM bass is to blame. probably all three.
I personally don't think muskie will have too much of a negative effect below the dam. they might eat a lot of gasperau, bullheads, fallfish, perch and suckers, but i don't think it will hurt fisheries for them very much..
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I'm not at all against Musky, but they do need to be culled.If you talk to some of the serious Musky guys, when the water is right, they tell you how much Musky activity there is in the river.There's lots of Musky for the size of the water.Musky just don't eat those species, when they're aggressive they'll take whatever they can catch, such as young Stripers, which is a problem.There's nothin wrong with all the interest in Musky fishing, but it's important to look after the natural species.The Musky are not going anywhere whether you cull fish or not.I guarantee you'll catch bigger Musky, if you start culling fish.Ask anyone who fishes where the Muskies exist, but not in as large numbers as Freddy, and they'll tell you the average fish are larger, and there are monsters being caught.
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the reason our fish have a smaller size average (35-45") it's because they are not old enough to be 50"+ fish.
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