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Hi, I just started fly fishing and am having decent luck on small lakes, but I was wondering about fly fishing on small brooks (10' wide) I have fished these with bait, but am not sure if I would have any luck with a fly.
 

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If its big enough to cast a fly, then dont waste ur time with bait. I fly fish brooks and rivers all the time with father. He tends to fish with bait and typically i bet the bigger fish. The only problem is getting hooked up in trees, it can be really hard to break ur line.

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For the small brooks keep roll casts in mind of course. Two advantages the first being less time in the trees but yes you might become entangled in streamside brush. The second reason is that your fly is in the water more. Tough to catch fish with the fly in the air.

Focus on current seams, areas behind large rocks, trees etc. Look for pools. You'll know the fishy water when you see it. Always remember to have fun out there too, even when it might be frustrating.

Basically, the same principles apply. When I used to be a bait fisherman my dad taught me years ago how to pick out eddy's and read water when fishing the Kawarthas targeting bass and walleye in fast water. This was huge and lessened my learning curve when I started fly fishing.

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thanks for the tips guys.

Just wondering what length of leader I should use. 8' rod with 6lb line
7' rod max with 4-5lbs leader line is enough for brookies... If you go with a bigger rod you will catch more trees than fish
... especially if you are fishing in a small brook
 

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Since so few of the trout in small brooks ever see an artificial fly, they just slam them. It doesn't even matter if you match the hatch exactly, the trout have had so little fly fishing pressure that they aren't relectant to hit a fly and the other posters are right - you'll get bigger fish.

True story - came upon two guys fishing one in my favourite pools. They were fishing worms and said they were just giving up without a bite in hours. While they were packing up I caught and released 5 brookies and a brown, all on a misquito. Boy were they ticked. The brown was huge and the fist I'd caught in 20 years on that stream.

If the brookies are surface feeding try the misquito or any bushy dry and if sub-surface try a zug bug.Also you'll catch some of the biggest trout on the smallest flies.
 

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The best place i've always found for the big boys, has always been were u see white thick foam pushed against over hanging logs. Theres always a few big guys waitin to hit a fly. Flyfishing is the best and i always keep two flies inside the front lip of my ball cap, the olive wooly bugger bead head and a green machine. Never know u may misplace ur flies but u never forget were your hat is.
 

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The best place i've always found for the big boys, has always been were u see white thick foam pushed against over hanging logs. Theres always a few big guys waitin to hit a fly. Flyfishing is the best and i always keep two flies inside the front lip of my ball cap, the olive wooly bugger bead head and a green machine. Never know u may misplace ur flies but u never forget were your hat is.
hey guys got my first fly rod what 5 flies would you buy first i like to fish for trout in the river by my house ive only used bait any help would be great also what size fly thanks
 

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hey guys got my first fly rod what 5 flies would you buy first i like to fish for trout in the river by my house ive only used bait any help would be great also what size fly thanks
Adams
Muddler
Small green machine
Mosquito
Grey ghost
Royal coachman
Hendrickson
Woolly Bugger's (olive or the black one)
and for sure mayflies (size 12-16 usually is good)

Note: (I always have a couple different variations and size)
 

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Adams...
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...Hendrickson
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and for sure mayflies (size 12-16 usually is good)

Note: (I always have a couple different variations and size)
Ummm....Adams and Hendrickson ARE mayflies.
Regardless,pretty good selection.


I'd have a hard time whittling down my flyboxes to just 5 patterns,especially in summertime with so many potential hatches to match,but if I really had to......

#1-Black Woolybugger(#8)-great for searching new waters and probing familiar pools alike,swung wet,streamer stripped,dead drift,nymphed,trolled,dangled,even ginked up and fished dry....there's no wrong way to fish it and it takes all but the most selectively feeding trout.Represents leaches,worms,baitfish.....yumm.

#2-Marabou Muddler(#6-10)-most of the same attributes as the lowly bugger,swung wet,stripped,trolled,dangled downstream....makes a decent hopper imitation fished dry.Imitates a variety of small baitfish,smaller sizes are deadly on smallish trout streams.

#3-Adams,Hendrickson....some other generic/non-specific type of mayfly pattern?sz 10-18....represents most mayflies "close enough" for greedy brookies....size is more important than color imho.

#4-black and/or brown stonefly nymphs,sz 4-12-common in most streams year round,excellent for probing the depths(nymphing)for in-active fish.Larger sizes are good size,tempting mouthful to move lazy trout.

#5-Elk Hair Caddis,sz 12-18,tans and greens(#16 tan if I had to pick just one?)-will cover most Caddis hatches "close enuf" for brookies.
 

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Can't beat one of Barry Dunfield's "Burdock" flys , they're deadly .
Caught 4 big trout , and lost a few more last weekend . 3 were on the Burdock and the 4th was on a Wooly Bugger .
 

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Can't beat one of Barry Dunfield's "Burdock" flys , they're deadly .
Caught 4 big trout , and lost a few more last weekend . 3 were on the Burdock and the 4th was on a Wooly Bugger .
Where can I get one
I'd like to try this "Burdock"upnorth
 

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Barry's in Boiestown , just past Burnt Land Brook . He usually has a sign out by the road - 'Flys for sale'. If you stop don't plan on a quick visit , he likes to talk fishing . Listen to what he says , he knows what he's talking about . He also has a sign over his garage door , " Dunfield's Den ".
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Can you post a pic of this fly or describe it, i would like to try some but boiestown is to far to travel and may allready ya one in the tackle box.
 

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Ummm....Adams and Hendrickson ARE mayflies.
Regardless,pretty good selection.


I'd have a hard time whittling down my flyboxes to just 5 patterns,especially in summertime with so many potential hatches to match,but if I really had to......

#1-Black Woolybugger(#8)-great for searching new waters and probing familiar pools alike,swung wet,streamer stripped,dead drift,nymphed,trolled,dangled,even ginked up and fished dry....there's no wrong way to fish it and it takes all but the most selectively feeding trout.Represents leaches,worms,baitfish.....yumm.

#2-Marabou Muddler(#6-10)-most of the same attributes as the lowly bugger,swung wet,stripped,trolled,dangled downstream....makes a decent hopper imitation fished dry.Imitates a variety of small baitfish,smaller sizes are deadly on smallish trout streams.

#3-Adams,Hendrickson....some other generic/non-specific type of mayfly pattern?sz 10-18....represents most mayflies "close enough" for greedy brookies....size is more important than color imho.

#4-black and/or brown stonefly nymphs,sz 4-12-common in most streams year round,excellent for probing the depths(nymphing)for in-active fish.Larger sizes are good size,tempting mouthful to move lazy trout.

#5-Elk Hair Caddis,sz 12-18,tans and greens(#16 tan if I had to pick just one?)-will cover most Caddis hatches "close enuf" for brookies.
thank you guys very much
 

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Can you post a pic of this fly or describe it, i would like to try some but boiestown is to far to travel and may allready ya one in the tackle box.
Burdocks look like bombers except they have a thin floss body(red,green,brown,orange etc.) instead of spun deer hair and they have more wraps of hackle.
 

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Burdocks look like bombers except they have a thin floss body(red,green,brown,orange etc.) instead of spun deer hair and they have more wraps of hackle.
No floss or thin body on the Burdocks I'm used to .
 
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